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In response to the Neds who beat up my 11 yr old sons today ...
by shaz_the_prole @ 2006-08-15 - 19:15:51

After a hard day at work, working in the areas designated by the scottish executive as those suffering from severe economic deprivation, I returned to the leafy Ayrshire town in which I live. I was knackered as per usual and looking forward to hugging my children and putting my feet up with a nice cup of coffee while waiting for dinner to cook and then my day was shattered. While I was out working with those labelled societies victims I discovered my twin boys had been attacked by a gang of 9 teenagers who were attempting to steal their trainers. One of the twins got away and raised the alarm, my parents arrived on the scene to witness my other son on the ground being kicked in the ribs and the face, with one youth delivering a punch to his face before he ran off. So now my sons are starting their first day at the Academy tomorrow with bruised faces and bruised ribs, one black eye and one split lip and a lump on the others head.

I work to try to help people such as these thugs, help their parents and them in anyway possible - and while I am doing that - simillar people are away beating up my children? How in good conscience will I be able to work with these individuals should then need me, its my job to help them but I will be thinking ... which child did you assault on your way here, whose baby did you sell drugs to, who are you going to mug tonight? When did you last turn your grannies house over? etc etc. And all the time I will be wanting retribution for those victims of the crimes when these 'poor victims of society' are confessing theirs to me!

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15/08/06 @ 19:25

It is a shameful world we live in. I think you are wonderful to help these ppl especially after what has happened, not sure I could do the same thing I would want retribution, but that isn't always the answer is it? these thugs that hurt your son, hope they eventually get what they deserve. Hope your sons first day at the academy goes well tomorrow.:)

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shaz_the_proleshaz_the_prole [Member]
15/08/06 @ 19:38

thank you so much, I hope that the twins have a good first day too - but they will arrive looking like they have done a couple of rounds with mike tyson

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deleted user [Visitor]

15/08/06 @ 20:00

I think the problems have to lie with the parents. How could these kids have ever got the idea into their heads that robbery was a good idea..

Retribution is a great idea - I wonder how funny one of those teenagers would find it if they were driven to France and dumped naked in a field...

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shaz_the_proleshaz_the_prole [Member]
15/08/06 @ 20:12

I know that to some extent you are correct there is fault with the parenting - the role models themselves dont appear to know right from wrong. However, there comes an age of criminal responsibility and in law it is assumed that by this age people do know right from wrong. If thats the case then these individuals are actively choosing to participate in wrong doing. I feel like making the same choice today for the sake of retribution but as an adult who does know right from wrong, I will do no such thing however appealing the feild in france may seem to me. If these thugs experienced that they would be jumping up and down screaming victim louder than any REAL victim ever did. We have become too liberal as a nation when it comes to crime - we have found ways to blame everything except the choice of the individual to participate in criminal behaviour - we choose to blame parenting ( they cant be there 24/7) we choose to blame gang mentality ( they chose to join a gang), we choose to blame Poverty ( so what explains the millions of poor people in this world who dont indulge in criminality, we blame the education system ( millions of children go through our education system only a small percentage choose not to learn right from wrong for whatever reason, Kudos, bravado etc etc the rest grow up to be law abiding citizens. What we need is to have a cultural revolution where we dont Blame Blame Blame and leave the individual blameless. We need to ensure that people understand not only their rights but also their responsibilities, once that is done we can return to a world where individuals are held completely responsible for the choices they choose to make! Failing that bring back the stocks and the whipping stool.

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deleted user [Visitor]

15/08/06 @ 20:21

good points. I agree.

Its far too easy for them to cry foul and then get preferential or reduced or no punishments as a result.

We a few kids (13-16) around here that are always playing up in the evenings. Where are their parents? In the bloody pub. The Devil finds work for idle hands...

I'd never let my kids out after dark before 16, and even after then they'd need to justify it if they were in school.

We should lock the little troublemaking buggers up. Needs of the law abiding masses rights to a quiet life over the needs of the scrotes.

Or drive them all butt naked to central France. Or break out the whips..:)

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steinbergsteinberg [Member]
15/08/06 @ 20:18

Thats an awful thing to happen to your boys. Really gets your blood up doesnt it.

youths are not how I would describe the little twats.

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shaz_the_proleshaz_the_prole [Member]
15/08/06 @ 21:05

I was trying to be polite the words I want to use to describe them are not fit for print!

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steinbergsteinberg [Member]
15/08/06 @ 21:26

I did notice your reserved way.

I think you have the right say exactly what you want, and how you want to.

I'm afriad anyone who beats up old ladies, children etc are out of the social contract and deserve some of their own behaviour.

ScotsmanmattScotsmanmatt [Member]
16/08/06 @ 17:02

Hi...

My own view is that we are far too soft on the perpetrators of such actions and make way too many excuses for them. As long as they know their actions, even if caught, won't amount to anything serious they will continue to so act. I hope you will be able to reconcile the dilemma you now face with your work and the personal experience you and your sons have just endured and applaud you for taking such a mature view of the situation.

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17/08/06 @ 19:22

I make no apology my dear, I simply had to have those trainers for little Lloydy. Bless him.

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